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Elizaberth of Caseville MI (09/06/08) William of Pensacola FL (05/11/08) Lisa of Hickory NC (03/11/08) Linda of Boiling Springs PA (03/06/08) Linda of Avon CO (10/28/07) Charles of Lafayette IN (09/20/07) Josephine of Staten Island NY (09/09/07) Josephine of Staten Island NY (08/20/07) I am also back to being agoraphobic too and homebound again. I am afraid to leave my house. On the old Nardil of 18 years, I was able to go out but on new Nardil, I can't. I notice I can't take any meds that are stimulants which Synthroid is and also Prednisone I couldn't tolerate to treat my asthma last month. I get severe symptoms of tremors, shaky, bugging out feeling in my body, have to race to fridge to gulp down 1/2 gallon of milk to stop it. My multivitamins actually stop the tremors to from Synthroid and nardil. I can't understand how. I never had problem wtih Synthroid and Nardil together till Nardil went and changed their formulation. None of my doctors are helping me or listening. They think I am nuts. All they tell me, what can I tell you. I hate that line. I don't know what to do. Few months ago was a dose up from Synthroid for about 4 months and I started to get racing heart at night in bed. Now on lower dose I get tremor in the morning but the racing heart reduced alot. I forgot to mention that. I know my story here is very confusing and jumping all of the place but I can explain it better on phone. I can't live like this anymore. I need help. I was thinking of getting off the Nardil but it's scary. I tried on the first day but it made me have to take it. The old Nardil was easier to wean off, not the new one. Now what do I do? Janet of Thomson IL (07/31/07) Debra of Euclid OH (04/19/07) In 2003, Pfizer reformulated this drug. Users of 20, 25, and 30+ years immediately noticed the drugs effectiveness had changed significantly. Many users were hospitalized, lost jobs and went through traumatic months before learning of the change. Contacting both Pfizer and the FDA were fruitless, however users who reached Pfizer internal pharmacists were told that it was well know that the reformulation was crap.? On top of the general loss of effectiveness caused by the reformulation, Pfizer has also produced many bad lots of the already problematic drug. In addition to the suffering users endured by the reformulation, there is always the possibility of obtaining a bad lot? which again hits out of the blue causing traumatic stress, depression and anxiety. People who have been living productive, happy lives for years are now trying to cope day to day by continuing to use Nardil, trying other drugs (most have taken everything available prior to Nardil!) and living in their own hell. Both the FDA and Pfizer were contacted by numerous individuals as well as a group representing a constituency of Nardil users and nothing has been done.
It is fairly clear that Pfizer is only in this drug for the money, and because the drug does not seem to directly KILL the user the FDA has no interest.
Reading the thousands of complaints on the Nardil message board about this medication, how can its efficacy not be if interest to the FDA or Pfizer. Ruining such a huge number of lives is trivial for a large drug company who is now making the drug in France as cheaply as possible.
And with another bad lot of the drug out (Nardil Lot # #6085002) which has motivated me to write to someone AGAIN
I know no one cares.
Mike of Tempe AZ (09/03/06) My depression returned in September of 2003. Pfizer did not publicize their change to the composition of Nardil so neither my doctor nor myself had any idea what had gone wrong. My doctor was convinced that it was my depression returning but since I was experiencing many strange physical effects I believed that the problem lied elswhere. From September 2003 until early 2005 my doctor tried adjusting my dose in hopes of achieving positive results. This did not happen! I had not learned about the Pfizer change to Nardil until early 2005. I presented my doctor with a letter from Pfizer which stated that they did change Nardil. My doctor could not believe that he was not notified by Pfizer but based on the information he had, in hand, he stated that there was little he could do to help me other than Electro-Convulsive-Therapy. This was the last thing I wanted but I agreed because of my loss of hope. I was hospitalized in June of 2005 to be withdrawn from Nardil and to begin ECT treatments. I stopped Nardil abruptly and experienced no withdrawall symptoms. My mood improved and seven days later I was discharged without having to go through ECT. A week later my symptoms returned and now I am back to the depressed person I was when I checked into the hospital.
After reading numorous accounts, on various web sites, written by people in my position, I believe the change to Nardil has caused the decline of my lifestyle and the increase in my depression. In 2004 I was accepted into the SSDI program without appeal. I felt doomed as the result of this action and I was forced to quit my job. I am now considered Seriously Mentally Ill (SMI) and the odds of my getting a job, even sweeping floors, are slim. Te quality of care I receive is minamal. Since September of 2003 my mental condition has steadily gone down hill. I am now a ward of the state and I firmly believe my present condition was caused by the direct result of the Pfizer change to Nardil. I took the old Nardil for nearly 18 years and I was on top of the world. Since 2003, when Pfizer changed Nardi, I feel that I have been at the bottom of the food chain. I have been left without Hope and believe that my life will be cut short as the result of Pfizers change to Nardil. Charles of Marion IN (08/02/06) Dena of Anderson SC (10/15/05) Debbie of Elko NV (04/13/05) In November of 2003, I noticed when I picked up my prescription of Nardil, it's appearance was obviously different from the original Nardil I had been taking for 15 years. My pharmacist told me it was still the same medication. For quite some time I noticed changes in my moods, and even mentioned to my spouse that the New Nardil seemed different. In January of 2004, my spouse had to rush me to the hospital due to an extreme rise in my blood pressure. I experienced such severe head pain which felt as though someone had hit me on the head with a sledge hammer. Because Nardil is a MAO Inhibitor, we must follow certain food restrictions, and non-prescription as well as prescription medications. In the event the restrictions aren't followed, what I experienced in elevated blood pressure, is a very dangerous side effect. Since I always take Nardil first thing in the morning, and not eaten anything, yet within 1/2 hour later, I was on my way to the hospital where I was medicated and observed for several hours until my blood pressure returned to normal. This is the first incident where I felt quite sure the New Nardil was different. Soon after the above incident I suddenly became (severely depressed, constant anxiety, inability to leave home unless necessary, constant insomnia and social anxiety. I live in Elko, Nevada where we have limited supply of physicians, especially specialty physicians. I went to my Primary Care Physician. I was told I could increase my dose of Nardil up to 6 tablets per day, safely. In addition I was put on 4 - 50 mg. tablets of Xanax per day to help with anxiety. She advised me to see a Psychiatrist, as she was not experienced in this issue. There are no Psychiatrists in Elko. I the meantime my spouse has had to take time off work to drive me to Salt Lake City (500 miles round trip), every month. Both my Psychiatrist and Primary Care Physician believe my issues are the result of Pfizer Pharmaceuticals re-formulation of Nardil, being a sub-standard generic form of the original Nardil. I have still not recovered from the effects of New Nardil, however the Psychiatrist is taking a very slow path to find medication that will bring me back to a normal state of mind. In order to attempt this transformation, I am now taking 5 New Nardil per day (up from 4 per day). He has added 3 new prescriptions in addition to the Nardil. Because I also have Multiple Sclerosis, I now take 13 pills per day, and a self-injection of Rebif (for Multiple Sclerosis). I have filed reports with the FDA, Pfizer Pharmaceuticals, and Med Watch. The replies I have received are standard form letters. After searching the interment, I have found an extremely large amount of men and women who are having similar and precisely the same conditions I've been experiencing with the New Nardil. As I stated earlier THIS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE, and not one to be ignored. Judith of Rapid City SD (02/21/05) Cathy of Louisville KY (01/26/05) Mike of Tempe AZ (11/23/04) Louise of Surveyor WV (10/28/04) Marjorie of Torrington CT (07/14/04) Debra of Elko NV (07/09/04) I have taken Nardil since 1988 (16 years), and after a month of using the new Nardil, I noticed changes in my mood. I started feeling depressed, anxious, unable to sleep at night, bouts of crying for no reason. I mentioned to my spouse at the time the Nardil seemed different. I have continued to slip further into depression, anxiety, and sleeplessness. I have read where others have experienced the same differences, and I have also read that Nardil was re-fomulated when Pfizer started dispensing it. I also understand that the old Nardil had 15 incipients, while the new Nardil has 9 incipients (only (3) of the original incipients remain in the new Nardil). Pfizer has not only ruined a perfectly effective formula, for those of us who are very limited on what type of antidepressant works for us, and Pfizer changing the formulation of Nardil has ruined my life. I have Multiple Sclerosis in addition to suicidal depression. I am very upset to have to deal with my mental state of mind while also dealing with the daily trials and pain of Multiple Sclerosis. Charles of Indianapolis IN (05/28/04) George of Albany NY (05/09/04) I have heart palpitations, feeling of dread, terrible nightmares, and depression so bad that I am considering hospitalization.
I recently did a web search and found out that many others have reported to Pfizer the same conclusion. I have been on this drug for the most part of the past 17+ years.
This is horrific, and I want help and assistance before it is too late. My family needs me and my income so my children can go to college and we can maintain a home. Judy of Fairfax Station VA (04/02/04) Catherine of Goldens Bridge NY (03/03/04) Within one week after starting this new prescription I began experiencing panic attacks, depression, crying continually, memory lapses, disacciation and depersonalization episodes. I was convinced that I was in the beginning stages of Alzheimers or some form of dementia and went my neurologist. After examining me he told me that I was fine and he felt that the symptoms I was experiencing were medication related. My psychiatrist who prescribes the NARDIL was out of town and I had another week before my appointment. So I went on the internet and found the website THE ANXIETY COMMUNITY - TREATMENT - MEDICATION:NARDIL. I was both happy and furious. All of these other people were going through the same as me. I found out that Pfizer had changed the formulation of the medication and had not advised pharmacies or physicians nor had they updated the literature which includes side effects ( which now included many more ). When I brought all of the literature to my doctor the following week he was outraged and by this time I was in such bad shape that I had to be hospitalized. I am off the NARDIL and have started a different medication but I still have episodes from time to time. Pfizer put me and so many others through emotional and physical hell but why should they care since NARDIL is not a big seller like Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, etc. I lost four months of my life, my holidays were ruined since I had no motivation and was continually crying and Pfizer should be held accountable for what it has done to all of the people whose lives have been affected. Victoria of Wyoming MI (03/02/04) While Pfizer may have the legal right to do this, I believe they have acted in an irresponsible manner towards their consumer base who depends on the original (now non-existent) drug for a comfortable existence. They have, in essence, replaced their original drug with a 'generic,' without informing the consumer, the physician nor the pharmacist, while misleading the FDA by simply applying for a 'labeling change.' (which was approved. This drug is not working in the efficent manner in which it had prior to the alterations made; it is metabolizing differently and is causing many NARDIL users to suffer the results of the ingredient alterations; new side effects for which there was no clinical trial, and an overall lessening of the effectiveness of the drug. Further, while Pfizer is busy fighting Canadian Drug companies who attempt to see to US citizens, complaining that the FDA cannot regulate same, they are manufacturing THIS drug (Nardil) in FRANCE, over which country the FDA has no control!!!! It is entirely inappropriate for a company to offer a drug to the public for many years (since 1959, I believe) that addresses symptoms effectively, only to alter it in a way that has proven to be inadequate. The sticking point is that ONCE OFFERED, it is irresponsible to the point of disregard for human life and quality of life to REMOVE SAID MEDICATION from the market by altering it without running adequate tests. Their ONLY REASON for said alterations, according to Pfizer, is 'to prolong shelf life.' Judy of Fairfax Station VA (3/4/04):
Many patients started to get depressed on the new Nardil, and had no clue why it was happening, the physicians were not certain what they were dealing with either. I, myself, went into a severe depression for a month, as did many, many other patients. Finally, my psychiatrist suggested increasing the dosage because he had no other ideas what to do. The dosage was raised from 75 mg., to 135 mg., which is a high dosage. The maximum recommended dosage is 90 mg. I had all kinds of side effects, tremors, legs shaking, bad nightmares, etc. So, the dosage was decreased to 120 mg., and that is the dose I am on today. Many patients are having horrible problems with this new Nardil. As far as I know, there were no clinical trials, they just changed the medication, called it a labeling change, and then sent it out to all these unsuspecting patients. Some are severely depressed, suicidal, panicky, etc. because these patients have been through many other anti-depressants (which were not effective) and Nardil is the only drug that really works for them. And then Pfizer decides to change the excipients in the medication, and send the Nardil over to France to be manufactured, where I am assuming the FDA cannot monitor the manufacture of the drug, etc. I am not a professional in the medical field, but I have taken this medicine for 22 year, and I know how it works, the side effects, how quickly it works when it's doing what it's supposed to, etc. And this new Nardil is working no more than 60-70% as well as the old Nardil. That is why I am having to double the dose, which also exposes me to more severe side effects, and of course, it is more expensive, because I have to take more for it to work. I am speaking for myself, but I am also speaking for others who are too sick or too discouraged to write. One more thing, when the new Nardil was put into the pharmacies last fall, patients were calling pharmacies, calling Pfizer, calling anyone they could think of to try and buy the old Nardil. Calls were made to Australia, Canada, England, Mexico, because that is how frantic these patients were, at having to take an unfamiliar drug, that their doctor knew nothing about, etc. Patients are writing their Congressmen, Senators, Pfizer, FDA, contacting lawyers, to see if there could be a lawsuit that would force Pfizer to make the old Nardil. There are patients now, openly talking about suicide. Catherine of Goldens Bridge NY (3/3/04):
Within one week after starting this new prescription I began experiencing panic attacks, depression, crying continually, memory lapses, disassociation and depersonalization episodes. I was convinced that I was in the beginning stages of Alzheimer's or some form of dementia and went to my neurologist. After examining me he told me that I was fine and he felt that the symptoms I was experiencing were medication-related. My psychiatrist who prescribes the NARDIL was out of town and I had another week before my appointment. So I went on the internet and found all of these other people were going through the same as me. I found out that Pfizer had changed the formulation of the medication and had not advised pharmacies or physicians nor had they updated the literature. When I brought all of the literature to my doctor the following week he was outraged and by this time I was in such bad shape that I had to be hospitalized. I am off the NARDIL and have started a different medication but I still have episodes from time to time. Pfizer put me and so many others through emotional and physical hell but why should they care since NARDIL is not a big seller like Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, etc. I lost four months of my life, my holidays were ruined since I had no motivation and was continually crying and Pfizer should be held accountable for what it has done to all of the people whose lives have been affected. Victoria of Wyoming MI (3/2/04):
While Pfizer may have the legal right to do this, I believe they have acted in an irresponsible manner towards their consumer base who depends on the original (now non-existent) drug for a comfortable existence. They have, in essence, replaced their original drug with a 'generic,' without informing the consumer, the physician or the pharmacist, while misleading the FDA by simply applying for a 'labeling change.' (which was approved. This drug is not working in the efficent manner it had prior to the alterations; it is metabolizing differently and is causing many NARDIL users to suffer the results of the ingredient alterations; new side effects for which there was no clinical trial, and an overall lessening of the effectiveness of the drug. Further, while Pfizer is busy fighting Canadian Drug companies who attempt to see to US citizens, complaining that the FDA cannot regulate same, they are manufacturing THIS drug (Nardil) in FRANCE, over which country the FDA has no control! It is entirely inappropriate for a company to offer a drug to the public for many years (since 1959, I believe) that addresses symptoms effectively, only to alter it in a way that has proven to be inadequate. The sticking point is that ONCE OFFERED, it is irresponsible to the point of disregard for human life and quality of life to REMOVE SAID MEDICATION from the market by altering it without running adequate tests. Their ONLY REASON for said alterations, according to Pfizer, is 'to prolong shelf life.' Physical damage ranges from physical and emotional discomfort to a complete return of the symptoms that the drug is supposed to address. The consequences for many are potentially life-threatening - if an anti-depressant does not perform to capacity, those who experience a return of symptoms may well resort to self-damaging behaviour. Since anxiety is a part of what this medication addresses, and it has been caused to recur in many consumers, one might forsee that possible death could result from such alterations and lack of effectiveness. As it stands, many have had to increase their dosages beyond adviseable limits in order for the drug to work; this can also result in incapacity up to and including death. New side effects including the horrific taste of the new coating (which dissolves instantly, while the original was hard-shell coating) and accompanying nausea, increased urinary retention, vomiting, general malaise, increased appetite beyond the original drug, flatulance, fetid diarrhoea and recurrence of both anxiety and depression are some personal and reported issues (online communications with others suffering from the 'new' formulation.) Report Your Experience
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